Club Theory
Tuesday, October 25th, 2022 02:24 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
snoozefestaudioThis is an extremely late night post, as you can tell from the timestamp, written after getting home after seeing my sisters and my brother in law both before and after work on Monday the 24th.
I'm only writing this to log the latest idea I had, after a couple days of thinking about brains and minds and psychology, and consicousness... where I had been looking for a dichotomy... of this brain V that brain... and decided that really might be too simple.
Now that I'm listening to Thinking, Fast & Slow and hearing about System 1 versus System 2... it is different from the left/right dichotomy, and the sleep/wake dichotomy.
And I did catch a little clip on TikTok of John Green saying (from some old YouTube footage) the memorable quote, "Almost everything we think is a dichotomy, is, in reality, a spectrum."
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So... I do think it's worth it to explore the idea of the brain or mind not being a dichotomy?..
But, spectrum, isn't quite right either, because all the reasearch does tend to identify these different sytems, and describe them in terms of being autonomous people who are always juxtaposed to the main person... who is you!
And I remembered theories about other systems, like, the indestructable observer and thought...
Okay, Lets assume it's group of multiple systems... each of whom act like autonimous, or semi autonimous cognitive entities... and what do we call that group, which includes you?
A corportation?... a gang?... and then I settled on... No!... it's a club!
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So, Club Theory starts with the assumption that you are a club. If your name is Jergen Phizenheimer... then you... in your brain, are actually the Jergen Phizenheimer Club!
How many members does that club have?... we don't know, but it's more that two!
It's not just Jergen Phizenheimer and his left brain, mute twin, idiot savant soul.
It's a club of several members, who each have different skills, and specialize in different tasks.
But at the start we can assume every club consists of;
Here, I'm using the term, "guy," in it's broadest, most genderless sense... because it's just easier!
Executive guy is you... the waking person who you think you are.
I've got to get to bed, so I won't go into a ton of detail about the rest but...
The indestructable observer is, not only the record keeper for the club, and the one who takes the minutes... but that highest part of your perception that not only sees what you're doing, and knows how you're feeling... whether awake or dreaming... but also can see what you're thinking.
You can be having a psychotic split... freaking out and hallucinating... but the indestructable observer is still there, going "I am currently having a psychotic split. I am currently freaking out emotionally. I am currently hallucinating this and that exact things."
And that's the record keeper, people will routinely go back to, when describing intense episodes of the past, and calmly relate, "Well, I was feeling this, and doing that, and I didn't know what was going on, but I was thinking this, and delusional about that, and hallucinating these specific things."
A late night entry like this won't do justice to the indestructable observer, but... suffice it to say, that it's at the core of Buddhist meditation, as well as modern Cognitive Behavioral Therapy.
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Sex Guy, fairly obviously, is in charge of your sex drive, sexual identity, sexual preferences, and your kinks.
Sex guy, very clearly... has his own agenda... operates independently of any other club members... and has a HUGE influence on what the club is about, and what it's doing from minute to minute, and day to day.
Sex guy is not Dream Guy... because Dream Guy rarely runs a sex scenario while you're dreaming, and if he does... it's probably to wake you up to pee or something.
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The Animal is... your body!
Your lazy, constantly aging, loafing body, who just wants to relax... and has to be coaxed and trained endlessly, to get up and do, what has to be done!
The animal is always hungry! It's always thirsty! It gets addicted to everything, from bubble gum to heroine!
It gets dirty, and stinky, and hairy... and is just constantly a total mess unless you groom it, and get it shots, and... no matter what, you're always having to compromise with the animal for this or that!
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There could be more club members, like, Emotion Guy, Inspiration Guy, Spirituality Guy, Fan Guy, Conspiracy Theory Guy...
But the whole idea here is to distill this all down to the least number of guys!
We know you're not just one guy. We suspect you might be more than two guys.
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It's worth trying to map out a club of six guys, to see how they might interact... and to see if they can explain all the other stuff... OR.. if we can boil it down to just five, or four guys!
That's where my head is moving... in this quest to understand whats going on... in waking life, and sleep... and meditation... and so forth.
If it's not a clear dichotomy... then it's a club... and how many club members are there?
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The last concept I'd toss into this mix tonight, is, Neuroplasticity... which is the ability of the brain to re-wire itself on the fly, if need be.
Neuroplasticity is not a guy in the club, but rather a feature of the club, as a whole.
In theory, one can train any of these systems, to get better at what they do, and get less... toxic... in the process.
OR...
The reverse can become true, if you grow up under constant gaslighting, and brainwashing... that the brain gets wired so that the club members are all pretty bad at what they do... and extremely toxic!
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Lot's to think about... just a back of the napkin theory!... this is not some manifesto about anything!
Just curious on a random Monday Night, and wondering where reading and research might eventually lead.
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I'm only writing this to log the latest idea I had, after a couple days of thinking about brains and minds and psychology, and consicousness... where I had been looking for a dichotomy... of this brain V that brain... and decided that really might be too simple.
Now that I'm listening to Thinking, Fast & Slow and hearing about System 1 versus System 2... it is different from the left/right dichotomy, and the sleep/wake dichotomy.
And I did catch a little clip on TikTok of John Green saying (from some old YouTube footage) the memorable quote, "Almost everything we think is a dichotomy, is, in reality, a spectrum."
So... I do think it's worth it to explore the idea of the brain or mind not being a dichotomy?..
But, spectrum, isn't quite right either, because all the reasearch does tend to identify these different sytems, and describe them in terms of being autonomous people who are always juxtaposed to the main person... who is you!
And I remembered theories about other systems, like, the indestructable observer and thought...
Okay, Lets assume it's group of multiple systems... each of whom act like autonimous, or semi autonimous cognitive entities... and what do we call that group, which includes you?
A corportation?... a gang?... and then I settled on... No!... it's a club!
So, Club Theory starts with the assumption that you are a club. If your name is Jergen Phizenheimer... then you... in your brain, are actually the Jergen Phizenheimer Club!
How many members does that club have?... we don't know, but it's more that two!
It's not just Jergen Phizenheimer and his left brain, mute twin, idiot savant soul.
It's a club of several members, who each have different skills, and specialize in different tasks.
But at the start we can assume every club consists of;
- Executive guy
- Intution guy
- Dream guy
- Indestructable Observer guy
- Sex guy
- And the Animal
Here, I'm using the term, "guy," in it's broadest, most genderless sense... because it's just easier!
Executive guy is you... the waking person who you think you are.
I've got to get to bed, so I won't go into a ton of detail about the rest but...
The indestructable observer is, not only the record keeper for the club, and the one who takes the minutes... but that highest part of your perception that not only sees what you're doing, and knows how you're feeling... whether awake or dreaming... but also can see what you're thinking.
You can be having a psychotic split... freaking out and hallucinating... but the indestructable observer is still there, going "I am currently having a psychotic split. I am currently freaking out emotionally. I am currently hallucinating this and that exact things."
And that's the record keeper, people will routinely go back to, when describing intense episodes of the past, and calmly relate, "Well, I was feeling this, and doing that, and I didn't know what was going on, but I was thinking this, and delusional about that, and hallucinating these specific things."
A late night entry like this won't do justice to the indestructable observer, but... suffice it to say, that it's at the core of Buddhist meditation, as well as modern Cognitive Behavioral Therapy.
Sex Guy, fairly obviously, is in charge of your sex drive, sexual identity, sexual preferences, and your kinks.
Sex guy, very clearly... has his own agenda... operates independently of any other club members... and has a HUGE influence on what the club is about, and what it's doing from minute to minute, and day to day.
Sex guy is not Dream Guy... because Dream Guy rarely runs a sex scenario while you're dreaming, and if he does... it's probably to wake you up to pee or something.
The Animal is... your body!
Your lazy, constantly aging, loafing body, who just wants to relax... and has to be coaxed and trained endlessly, to get up and do, what has to be done!
The animal is always hungry! It's always thirsty! It gets addicted to everything, from bubble gum to heroine!
It gets dirty, and stinky, and hairy... and is just constantly a total mess unless you groom it, and get it shots, and... no matter what, you're always having to compromise with the animal for this or that!
There could be more club members, like, Emotion Guy, Inspiration Guy, Spirituality Guy, Fan Guy, Conspiracy Theory Guy...
But the whole idea here is to distill this all down to the least number of guys!
We know you're not just one guy. We suspect you might be more than two guys.
It's worth trying to map out a club of six guys, to see how they might interact... and to see if they can explain all the other stuff... OR.. if we can boil it down to just five, or four guys!
That's where my head is moving... in this quest to understand whats going on... in waking life, and sleep... and meditation... and so forth.
If it's not a clear dichotomy... then it's a club... and how many club members are there?
The last concept I'd toss into this mix tonight, is, Neuroplasticity... which is the ability of the brain to re-wire itself on the fly, if need be.
Neuroplasticity is not a guy in the club, but rather a feature of the club, as a whole.
In theory, one can train any of these systems, to get better at what they do, and get less... toxic... in the process.
OR...
The reverse can become true, if you grow up under constant gaslighting, and brainwashing... that the brain gets wired so that the club members are all pretty bad at what they do... and extremely toxic!
Lot's to think about... just a back of the napkin theory!... this is not some manifesto about anything!
Just curious on a random Monday Night, and wondering where reading and research might eventually lead.
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